Enya Habel: [00:00:00] To like pick yourself up. I feel like that's something we had to do a lot in this sport. It's not that you lost. Uh, the bronze medal. It's not like you lost this, this title, you didn't have it. Like you, you can't lose something you don't have, like I do believe that every dog has a certain amount of kilometers in that and we need to be very careful how we use them.
When I put my dog on a dog walk for the first time, or when I put my dog over a jump for the first time, it's better and safer if they know already how to do it. People told me if you live there, you can't compete at the national team. You can't, uh, train in the winter. You can't do, um, you can't run for the best judges.
Um, now, like your career starts now, you know, you won't be able to do all the things that you do here. Like where I used to live, I had five clubs and two halls within 30 minutes. And, uh, most of them told me what was not possible [00:01:00] if you lived there. Uh, I did. Like a checklist. Everything that people told me was not possible.
That mind shift and the attitude towards when things don't go your way, that is a biggie in this sport. Uh, you have to learn to handle that, uh, because it'll happen often, more often than you will have sit back. Yeah.
Christoffer Endresen: I didn't know that part of your story. And we known each other for a couple of years, not how many people do.
No. Wow. Yeah.
Enya Habel: Um, I woke up from a snoring sound, uh, realizing that this is not snoring. This is someone who can't breathe.
Christoffer Endresen: There we go. Hi, and welcome to the Champions journey. A B, C or a WC has just been completed. Last week was just amazing. It was so fun, so exciting to see all the different teams running [00:02:00] and for those that attended the event, watch the live stream.
You know that when you go to a WC, there's a lot of tension, there's a lot of nerves. There's the desire to perform, and then sometimes there's the desire to perform too much. And at the end of the day when everything is done, we. Have a champion or champions, and then the game starts all over again. Now the score is zero zero, and to everyone that has attended the A WC or wants to attend the A WC, the game starts again.
Now is the preparation time for next year's event, and I hope that everyone has filled up their motivation bank and are ready to do their absolute best in order to improve and perform at their next tryout. Over to the [00:03:00] podcast. This week's guest is no other than Enya Hobel. Enya had her first A, B, C or a WC at in Sweden in 2000 and and 18.
She's now having her second championship in Sweden. It's now her second championship that she attended, but it's her second championship in her home country. She's now ended her career with Party. She attended with Party 2018. Now in 2025, she is retiring party after a WC. One of the things that caught me sort of off guard when came to this episode was, I've known Enya for many years, but I didn't know a part of the story that she is going to share with us, and I'm so grateful that Enya chose to share that story because.
It really gave me an aha moment. You might know [00:04:00] someone or think you know someone for many years, but if you ask them questions, if you dig into their story, if you view every person as a new, interesting movie, you get to see a different side of that person. And what comes to my mind is the word respect.
The word respect means to look again. It's Latin, it's spec like spectate, spectator and re, which means to like repeat, to look again. That's what respect means. And doing this podcast, I get that opportunity to look at a person again, to listen to their story. And it's a lesson for all of us to actually take a second look at a situation at your dog, at an event, at a person.
And by having that second point of view or daring to look again, [00:05:00] can change a lot. One my favorite quotes is, of course, Wayne Dwyers. When you change the way you look at a thing, the thing you look at changes. And with that in mind, let's head over to any hale and listen to her champions journey. Hi Anya, and welcome to the Champions Journey.
Enya Habel: Hello. Thank you for having me.
Christoffer Endresen: And for those that are listening in, uh, you're now sitting in a new house. Congratulations.
Enya Habel: Thank you. I have one chair in the house and that's the chair I used sitting on, so
Christoffer Endresen: that's fantastic. The rest is just, uh, cardboard, uh, boxes and, uh, a little bit of chaos.
Enya Habel: Yes, uh, not a little bit of chaos.
Lots of chaos.
Christoffer Endresen: But it's, uh, it's uh, kind of interesting because you moved from north of Sweden and down to more the southern part. That's quite a, [00:06:00] quite a trip. How was the move?
Enya Habel: Um, easier than I expected, but I think the hard part starts now. Um, we used to live in Luo, um, which is about 45 minutes south of the northern polar circle.
Um, and we decided, uh, last year that we were gonna go for our dream. We've been talking about moving south for a long time and we said, now let's do it. So we are now in the most southern part, like 1,500 kilometers south of where we used to be. And, um, we have no connections to this area. So it's really just a leap into the unknown and so far we absolutely love this place.
Christoffer Endresen: That's fantastic. I've, I've seen some pictures that it's, it's truly beautiful and I think that with your plans it's gonna be become much, uh, much more beautiful in the future. Um, but I, [00:07:00] before we touch on your story, I really want to, to dig a bit into like your motivation for making that move in terms of, um, I know that you're now much, much closer to Europe.
You're much, much closer to Yeah. The different competitions. So talk a bit about the motivation for making that big leap.
Enya Habel: Yeah. We're gonna probably head into like, heavy subjects immediately, but we actually, we started talking about moving south, um, after COVID, like back in 20 20, 20 21, and we started looking at houses in 2021. Um. We have this saying in Sweden that like, you can't move the men from the north. So it was more like, I'm not originally from the north, but Marcus, my boyfriend is.
And um, it was harder for him to adapt to the thought of not living there his entire life. Um, but we started looking at houses and we started [00:08:00] building a dream round, possibly being closer to anything related to the sport that we're doing. Um, we love the north, but we are also kind of tired of all the driving just within our country before we even reach Europe.
So it's been, it's like 20 hours down to, to Denmark from, from where we used to live. So just having, like logistically it's just so much easier to be in the South. Um, and last year, uh, Marcus got sick. And he had a very near death experience. Um, he was actually dead, uh, for 10, 15 minutes, and that was the last step that it required for us to, even for him to be afterwards.
He said like, we are moving, like we are doing everything that we talked about that we said we can do later. We are doing it now because he had a second chance on [00:09:00] life. And we said we have to try. And, I mean, Lily still exists. We can always move back if we, if we don't like it here, seeing this place, I, I don't think that will happen.
But, um, it was actually, he started to get more pushy last year and um, we found this place and we just said, let's go. Like, you have to take risks, right?
Christoffer Endresen: Yes, definitely. And it also talks about your dedication to the sport, um, making that big move, um, taking that chance and. I remember when you told us that you're, you're looking for new houses and I, and I chat a lot with, um, with Marcus, um, uh, on Instagram and Facebook, and he sends me different, um, places you've been to look at.
And I just thought, wow, what a commitment. It's just fantastic. It's, it's really cool. Yeah. And I love it, and I congratulations so much with the new place. And yes, you, you talked about one topic, of course, what happened [00:10:00] last year. Um, but we're gonna touch in on that, but I want to start with you in the beginning.
So first of all, how was life before Agility?
Enya Habel: Uh, was life before agility? Uh, I started with agility when I was, uh, 16. I got my first dog. Um, life before agility was for me, very messy. Um. I didn't have a very good upbringing. Uh, and I lacked like comfort, support structure, um, in my upbringing. Um, I always loved animals, but it's funny because no one in my family does, like, no one in my family even understands animals.
And my mom said, I always had this, like, if there was animals and people, I would always go to the animals and try to like, [00:11:00] interact with them rather than with people. Um, and yeah, I, it, it's a very long story. Uh, but I, it started actually, I, I was brought up in foster care and, uh, my foster mom was like angel on earth.
Like she, um, she introduced me to, to horses and to horse riding. She supported me 100% to have my own horses and to compete. Um, and unfortunately one day with our, when I was 16, my, our, our social security in the country said that they can no longer fund, um, my foster mom to have me living there. And that I, um, they wanted to put me in a boarding school.
And the boarding school that they put me in was, um, related to like agriculture. And they had a, [00:12:00] like a line, it, it sounds really strange, but it was about animals and animal behaviors. And now looking back, I have no idea what I was meant to become from studying that in, uh, in school. But, um, I was put there against my will.
And, um, and then I said I, I wanted to have a dog to, to bring with me because I felt lonely at that time of my life. And we had a litter of Jack Russell Terriers that was born in our stable at that time where we had the horses. And I said, I wanted one of those puppies. If I'm gonna move and leave this place that has been my life for so many years, I want to have one of those puppies.
And, um, my biological mom, which I had a good relationship with when I was in foster care, she said, absolutely not. Absolutely not. You can't even take care of yourself, so you're not gonna be able to take care of [00:13:00] a dog. And I still kind of said that I would take this puppy, and in my mind, I didn't, I didn't accept no for an answer.
I was so, so sure that I wanted this puppy, and I kept trying to convince my mom that this was a good idea. Um, and my, my mom was, uh, married at the time with a man that didn't like dogs, and she understood that after I've been in, in this school for three years, I'm probably gonna move back home to her.
And they didn't want a dog there. So, uh, so he actually said that, um, I can't stay in this relationship if we, if we get a dog. Uh, of course that wasn't the, the only thing. There was problems leading up to that. But in the end, just one week before the, the puppies turned eight weeks, my mom called me and she said, um, when should I come sign the papers?
Because I couldn't sign the papers. I was only 16 and you have to be 18 [00:14:00] to get insurance and stuff for your dog. So she decided that day that she. Wanted to take that risk cans. Um, and she knew if I couldn't take care of this dog, that dog would be hers to take care of. And, um, and yeah, she, she came out and we, we bought the dog.
Um, I took it with me from the stable and moved to the sporting school, started to studying like animal behaviors. And, uh, my mom separated from this man, and she still says to this day that if she can choose one decision she made in life, that is the best decision she ever made. It's getting me this dog.
Wow. It led up to everything that I have in my life now. Um, but it, it was, it's a very messy period of my life. And I just remember that having this [00:15:00] dog just like. Gave me so much comfort. And also I had, I, I needed to be responsible for someone else. And I learned structure and I learned how to love and how to care.
And, um, yeah, this dog just passed now in the beginning of the summer, and she was 15 and a half. So she, she stayed with me until I was now 31, and she's been like, she changed my life for sure.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. Wow. Um,
Enya Habel: yeah.
Christoffer Endresen: I didn't know that part of your story. Uh, and we known each other for a couple years. Many people do.
No. Wow. Yeah. But, uh, I, I, I'm standing here with goosebumps, uh, yeah. And it's, uh, thank you so much for sharing that. That's pretty strong. And, um,
Enya Habel: yeah.
Christoffer Endresen: It's also kind of great to reflect back on how that small, tiny change of direction just shapes, shapes the destiny.
Enya Habel: Yeah. [00:16:00] Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? And the, this, this boarding school that I went to, I, I lived there in the weeks and I went home to my biological mom and my foster mom over the weekends.
Um, and, um, they had an agility field, so they had like really old agility obstacles. And this poor Jack Russell, like, I didn't know anything about dog training and this poor Jack Russell with so much energy. Um, I started going there always in the night, um, because I was so embarrassed that I wasn't good at this.
But I went there in the, in the nights when it was dark and started training her more like activating her, um, in, in the agility field and. We just, for me, it reminded so much about, I did show jumping. So for me it reminded so much about, um, the show jumping, uh, but for [00:17:00] dogs. And unfortunately at that time I didn't understand that dog agility was not about jumping the highest.
'cause the show jumping you jump high. So that poor Russell, but she, she, uh, she turned out okay. She actually won the Swedish championships when she was eight and a half, so she turned out fine.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. But that's, that's kind of the thing. When you start out with something, you have, you become gradually aware of how little competence you have.
But, uh, it's good to just get started and you learn on the way. Yeah. So you got this dog, you started Bo um, a boarding school and when, when was. Would you say that that dog was, was the dog that changed the game for you that changed everything the first one?
Enya Habel: Mm. Not [00:18:00] necessarily like she was, now I can look back and I can say she was the perfect first dog.
She was actually not, she was a horrible first dog. But, but now I see how much I actually learned from her because she was so stubborn. I mean, of course she was a terrier. Um, she wouldn't do anything for me just because I asked her to. She would always ask the question back, like, what's in it for me? What happens if I do this?
What happens if I do this? So she really challenged me. And um, it's funny because I even remember a day where I went to my computer, uh, actually I went to the computer in the library, in the school. I didn't have a laptop. This is. Uh, back in the days and I googled Jack Russell, like I Googled, what did I buy?
Because she was such hard work. And when I read about the Jack Russells and the, what, what they were bred for and what they are [00:19:00] used for, uh, how they should be stubborn in any situation, they should never, ever, ever, ever give up. That's when I understood that fighting with this dog, um, is never gonna work.
I'm gonna learn. I'm gonna learn how to be smarter, and I need to learn how to train this dog, um, with positive reinforcement to make her make good choices. And, um, and that's what made me the dog trainer. I am, she's 100% the dog that made me the dog trainer that I am. Um, I, I lived at the sporting school for three years and I graduated.
With a scholarship, um, of, they had a scholarship on the school with who developed the most in their dog training. I got that scholarship and I used it to go to my first Swedish championship that I had qualified for thanks to good trainers at the school, uh, that supported me in this, in this journey. So she was definitely the [00:20:00] start.
But I think my second dog, um, party, she has been for sure that that dog, that was the, the beginning of my actual agility career, if that makes sense.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah, that, that makes sense. Tell us a little bit more about Party because um, there are people listening, not everyone knows it. So who is party? How old is she now?
And she's still competing. Um, so, so tell us a little bit about Party.
Enya Habel: Um. Party where to begin? I can, I can tell you one thing. My, when I asked my mom, I was 21 when I got party. I was, uh, staying at my mom's for, um, a few years before, uh, I was in between apartments and I asked her if I could get a second dog.
She was like, oh, yes, of course the second one was not as hard as the first one. Um, but party [00:21:00] is, she will be 11 now at the end of the year. Um, she is my definitely, like, I, I have a special relationship to all of my dogs, but she's this type of dog, you know, that can read your soul. Like she, she and I just understand each other, and we did from, from day one.
Um, she's a very gentle, very soft soul and yeah, I, she's a very, very special dog. She. She was my first dog when she was three. She qualified to her first world championship and we did our first a WC in Sweden in 2018, and she will now do her last, um, a WC also in Sweden. Uh, and she, yeah, she will be 11. So she had, she did every world championship since, um, she did six years at a WC with two years of COVID.
She's been on the highest level of the [00:22:00] sport for almost nine years. Um, she's a very, very special dog. She won a lot and, um, lost a lot, but I mean, she's, um, yeah, she's an amazing little creature.
Christoffer Endresen: Yes, she is. And it's, it's really. It's special when you can have your first a WC in your home country and also your last, uh, with the dog.
So I know it's gonna be very, uh, meaningful, uh, these, uh, coming weeks. Uh, this episode is out after a WC, but I know for sure that that is gonna be a special moment for you too. Uh, so I, I look forward to seeing it for sure. And
Enya Habel: I'm gonna cry my eyes out probably.
Christoffer Endresen: It's gonna probably gonna be more people crying their ass eyes out.
So, uh, um, but it's, it's really special how these dogs impact our lives. And when, when you started out, you had the first dog and then you got [00:23:00] party and you really started your, um, agility career, what were some of the struggles and things that you had to learn that were essential for you to get to that level of performance?
Enya Habel: I think with, um, in the beginning of my career, my, my main struggle actually that I had was I didn't have a driver's license and I didn't have a family that supported, um, what I did. So in the, in the beginning, I had to take the bus to trainings. I have walked so many kilometers, uh, for training and competitions.
I had to hitchhike with friends, um, to just get to competitions and, and trainings. And I think that taught me in an early age too, or early in [00:24:00] my career, um, to not limit myself because you don't have perfect conditions. Uh, and that followed me when I, when I moved north, for example, um, that followed me, that attitude because party was three.
When I moved north, she was just in the beginning of her career. And there, there was no indoor places, nowhere to train your dog in the, in the winter. And I mean, when we lived there, we had eight months of winter and four months where you could train outside. Um, and the closest, uh, the closest indoor place that we had was in Stockholm.
So I, I had to learn, like, one of my main, main things I'm so happy today that I learned is how to build behaviors off equipment. Um, like how to create behaviors that can be used in agility, but you don't necessarily have [00:25:00] the access to agility. That was a biggie for me. Uh, it took me a long time to learn that I don't need agility, obstacles to train my dogs in agility.
Um, and also I drove. To Stockholm to train, um, in a, in a time period. I did it every week. I, I had to drive, uh, I drove on Monday, I trained on Tuesday, and I drove back home on Wednesday. Um, and I can just mention it's 11 hours one way, uh, from Lio to Stockholm. So yeah, there, there's, there's a couple of references
Christoffer Endresen: that we need to add here.
Uh, first of all, Lu Leo is really cold in the winter. Really, really cold. We're talking very, very cold.
Enya Habel: Last, uh, last winter we had minus 45 for a week, so, yeah. Yeah.
Christoffer Endresen: So it's, um, I remember you had a video where you took, um, hot water, boiling water, threw it in the air, and before it landed it was ice. So, uh, yes.
Welcome to the north. Yeah. [00:26:00] And
Enya Habel: yeah, but it shapes you. It like it, uh, it just, it taught me one of the words that. Followed me my entire life is just grit. Like, it taught me to just go for what you want, regardless of, um, your possibilities, your conditions, like whatever. What if you don't have everything right now, just still go for what you want, follow your dreams.
Just, you just have to work a little bit harder. But I think that that shapes you as a person. I don't see that necessarily as a negative thing, but you have to work for it.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah, I agree. And I think that a lot of people have the impression that you've always had a hole in your backyard and, uh, the newest, uh, gallan obstacles, uh, at all times.
So I I really, I really appreciate you saying that because it, I hope that it gives hope to a lot of people that I don't need that necessarily. It's beneficial. Yeah. But it's, it's not needed in order to shape the behavior. [00:27:00] Um, and then would you say that learning those skills, training with those limitation.
Helped you to gain more or sort of every session that you had with obstacles became better due to that foundation?
Enya Habel: Yeah, a hundred percent. A hundred percent. Because what, what I learned was if you, if you build the behavior before you apply it onto obstacles, you also don't have the, um, the risk of getting wrong behaviors on the equipment.
You don't have to, if you, if you need to unlearn something or you made a small mistake in your training, it's, it's not applied to the obstacle yet. So it doesn't ruin your agility training. And also in the sport, like I think we all know it if we're, if we're in the sport, it's, it has a huge impact on our dog's bodies.
Um, so I'm, I'm really happy that I [00:28:00] learned that if I. If I can teach my dogs what I want them to do without adding that impact until later, um, they can have a longer career. I mean, look at Party now. She will be 11. She had a sixth place out of the 200 best small dogs now at Eels. And um, she's still running like crazy.
And I think that is because I found a way to not waste her kilometers. Like I do believe that every dog has a certain amount of kilometers in there and we need to be very careful how we use them.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah, that's a, that's a very good metaphor. Um, I like that. That was, that was an interesting, uh, yeah, that was an aha moment for me.
Um, so yeah,
Enya Habel: I think some dogs have more and some dogs have less, and I mean, things can still happen, but, um, I. I really try to protect my dog's kilometers in training, how I [00:29:00] train, how I compete. Um, it's very important for me.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. And what comes to mind is like if you study pilots or if you study surgeons, right?
Every time they get on a plane, every time they do a surgery, there's risk involved. And would you say that the training that you do is more like a simulator or simulating the behavior that you want to see on the course?
Enya Habel: Yeah, it's, um, yeah. I, I like that comparation because when, when you put a pilot in the plane for the first time, they know what to do already.
Um, and they can do it safe. And I think we need to think more like that on our dogs. Um, when I put my dog on a dog walk for the first time, or when I put my dog over a jump for the first time, it's better and safer if they know already how to do it. Um, and that can also prevent. Injuries because they can execute whatever I'm asking for in a safe way.[00:30:00]
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. This is a good talk.
Enya Habel: Yeah. Yeah.
Christoffer Endresen: Learning a lot.
Enya Habel: Yeah, I like that. Yeah. Yeah.
Christoffer Endresen: So when you had party, uh, you started to, you, you had those limitations. And we just have to recap. You drove to Stockholm and I'll see if I can actually on, on the video podcast, on YouTube actually illustrate the trip because it's very long.
Enya Habel: It's very long. But I have to say like it's, some people say that we all have the same 24 hours, and I do believe that to be partly true. I mean, I was 26 years old. I did the sport for a living already. Them I have no kids. Um, and. I, I mean, I had the opportunity to do that, but it still required dedication.
I think even if you have the time, not everyone would invest their time into actually [00:31:00] doing that For me, um, it was never an option not to do it because, I mean, we have tryouts in April and May, and our snow stays until June. So the only way to get my dog on equipment before our tryouts was to drive to the closest equipment.
And, um, that was at that time in Stockholm. So, but, but with that said, I, I would understand if everyone didn't have that possibility, even if they had a dedication to it.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. But at the same time, for you, that was the thing that was required and you said yes. Yeah, I'm willing to do that
Enya Habel: a hundred percent.
Yeah. And the funny thing is, Marcus said that now when we moved South, he said, what I found fascinating with you is that I have never heard you complain. [00:32:00] Um, and I, I didn't reflect on that at all. I, for me it's so, like, I'm so, um, when I go into something, I'm so focused and driven to do that, that complaining over what I don't have is, is not an option.
Um, I just did what had to be done. I learned a lot of good podcasts and playlists on Spotify and I drove my hours, um, complaining that I had to, wouldn't take away the fact that I still had to do the drive.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. That's, uh, so you went from walking to getting your driver's license and then driving a lot to, to catch up.
Enya Habel: Life is easier now.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah, I guess. But I was also wondering, when you were in your car, did you do anything specific in order to, to sort of utilize that time in the car that would benefit you? Like did you do any, uh, visualization? [00:33:00] Uh, you, you said you listened to podcasts. What were the things that you did in the car so that you would get the most benefit out of your time?
Enya Habel: Uh, it's a very good question. Um, lots of podcasts. Um, and probably when you say it, lots of visualization too, because I needed to have a plan. Like you don't, you don't drive that distance. To go down, down and see, hmm, I wonder what I'm training today. Like you, you drive that distance and you have a very clear plan, um, of, of what you're training today.
And so I probably did v uh, visualized it without thinking about it, that this is what I want for my training, this is how I want it to be. And one thing that I really learned was also to, um, to learn how to, let's say, let's call it perform when you're not at your best. Um, because it wasn't every time that I arrived there on a [00:34:00] Tuesday and I had my best day in life.
Like I have bad days and sometimes I, um, feel tired or sad or I have a headache or whatever. But I, I really learned that even if it's not necessarily your best day, you can still get it done. That helped me a lot at big competitions because I, I had to for such a long time just get it done when I was there.
It's not like I could turn back home and say, no, I don't feel like training today. Like, I drove the distance. I have to do it. And it taught me also that even if you don't have the best day, what, what I realized was after training my dogs, my days were, were always better. So, um, yeah, I, I think I, I gained that from, from that experience as well.
Christoffer Endresen: Did you, like, do anything special in order to change your state of [00:35:00] mind? When you, let's say that you went, you drove in, driven all the way from Luo to Stockholm, you get to the training hall, you feel sluggish or you feel off, like, did you do anything special in order to get into a right mindset before the training session?
Enya Habel: No, not necessarily. Um, I, I feel like I, very often when I do my warmup, I just wake up. It's like my, my body knows what is happening. So, um, it's almost like a physical trigger that now, now you're supposed to perform. And I mean, that's what a warmup is for. Um, so not necessarily, but, um, it was more the fact that I knew I'm getting this done today, um, regardless of how I feel.
And of course I didn't always have the, the best training [00:36:00] ever, but it still, I still had to get it done. And, uh, I still had to learn how to manage my time and be very productive with the time that I had.
Christoffer Endresen: But it, it makes, I think that actually the fact that you, what you just said, that you made a decision that I'm gonna make this count often.
That, that you're just firm on, that that's sufficient enough for you to pull through regardless of how you feel and, uh, what you're thinking. And another part that you mentioned there is the warmup, because I think that's, I remember from the beginning, the warmup is so important because not just physically preparing you Yeah.
But also mentally it gets you into that state of mind.
Enya Habel: Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. So
Christoffer Endresen: let's, let's, let's go. You put in the work, you went to your first, uh, a WC or a VC as we call it. But in, uh, uh, [00:37:00] other ones, they call it a WC. The World Championship. Yeah. And you had your first one in Sweden back in 2018.
Um, how did that go and what did you learn from that?
Enya Habel: Um, I, I wasn't super happy with my performance at, uh, my first world championship. I, I had been doing well throughout the year, but I, I, I think the whole experience of competing at that type of event can be like super exciting, but also a little bit overwhelming. Um, I didn't have any clean ones, um, but I, we did have a podium, podium on the team.
Um, thanks to lovely teammates. Um, but no, I wasn't too happy. But I think that that performance that I had at my first World Championship really. [00:38:00] Led up to me being even more focused on how I can do that better. Like, I don't want to invest so much time, so much training, so much hours and money and energy and not take this chance when I have it.
So already on the, my second time and in 2019 in Finland, I had my first individual medal.
Christoffer Endresen: Yes. That was a big, uh, change because, and that's why I asked the question because, um, yeah, because I, I I, based on your results, I, you can assume, or I assume that you made some changes, um, in order to get from not performing as well as you usually did at a big event like that, to actually going and getting a individual medal.
Um, and were there anything, like particular things that you did different that year in order to, to change your game? [00:39:00]
Enya Habel: Um, I think I just realized the, the level at this competition and I just realized that I, I'm working hard, but I need to work even harder. I had like small, it was funny because the local newspaper was doing an interview with, with, um, with me and they were at our house and one of the pictures that was on the first page of the magazine was my small notes that I had in the house.
So anywhere where I look off, so for example, on the, on the handle to the refrigerator or on the bathroom mirror, I had small notes, so like small affirmations to myself or notes telling me to stay focused or like what to think about. And I put these notes everywhere in the house and. I, I [00:40:00] think another thing that I learned that year between 18 and 19, because I mean, I had done so much work leading up to the First World championship, but I still didn't get the result that I wanted.
Um, and I think it's easy in the situation that I was in to adapt like a victim's mindset. Um, like, why, why is this happening to me? Why do I have this condition when everyone else have these conditions? Um, and to try to like learn, I, I did a lot of like, um, mental training and to learn how to not get into that victim's mindset.
Um, and maybe that is not always helping you to perform, but it does help you when you, when you don't perform, which is. To be honest more often in this sport. Um, but not getting stuck in the loop of thinking, why is this happening to me? Why do I [00:41:00] always have this? Why did, didn't I get the result that I deserved?
Um, so I did a lot of work with that, uh, in that year.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. And when it comes to the victim mindset, that's in, in many cases that could be default. Uh, and it's from time to time you can fall into it. That's just how, how we are as humans. But, but what I, what I think is important is to catch yourself when you do, uh, or have the support system around you that catches you when you do, and then Mm,
Enya Habel: absolutely.
Tell you how to
Christoffer Endresen: change it. So,
Enya Habel: absolutely. I had the, um, situation now at the, we just had the Nordic championships and I had that situation with three times for plays. I was fourth in three runs, including the final and the one bar best time kind of thing. And it's easy to, we have it, we all have it in the sport.
And I had a [00:42:00] coaching call with Kurt, who I also think you had an interview with, um, that he just immediately picked me up and he said like, look, it's not that you lost, uh, the bronze medal. It's not like you lost this, this title, you didn't have it. Like you, you can't lose something you don't have. So, um, so having that, it's, as you say, it's easy to default back into, especially in the sport, I think.
But just remembering that like in this sport, everyone has the equal chance of winning. Like when we step on the line, everyone is on the equal chance. And sometimes it happens for you, sometimes it doesn't. And, um. You just have to remember that so you can step on the line. Again, that's, that's the most important in the sport to like pick yourself up.
I feel like that's something we have to do a lot in this sport.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. The agility is just fascinating. I remember from when I got [00:43:00] involved with Agility, uh, I was coaching a, a woman and um, she told me after our first coaching call, she called me up and said I got eliminated. I was like, eliminated. What did you do?
Because I was so used to other sports. If you get eliminated, that's a red card, you've done something really, really bad.
Enya Habel: Her to the judge or her.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. Something like that. Um, and, but it's so interesting. I remember my first, the first a WC that I watched was, was in 2018 in, in, uh, Sweden with. I was so fascinated that we were, of course, watching fantastic dogs and fantastic handlers, but the margin for error, like it was super small.
You could just see that one foot in the wrong direction, one toe poke pointing a little bit off, and that dog just ran into the tunnel. And it's, [00:44:00] and the effect or, or the, the result of that is just so devastating sometimes because you get eliminated and you're out of the game. And what, what are the things that you've done to, to be able to deal with those, um, challenges so that you can sort of mentally Yeah.
Enya Habel: Or, yeah, I think just, um, like what we touched on about changing your attitude, um, towards. What is yours and what is not? Because I think, um, when, when you go to these type of events and you have a dog that you know can win this event, and to be honest, there are quite many dogs that can, because as you say, the margins are so small and you have prepared, you have trained, and it doesn't necessarily like have to be even at the biggest competition.
It could be at any competition [00:45:00] where you feel like, now I got it, like this is my year because I have done everything. And then still you point that toe in the wrong direction. Like, you have a small, you have one bar dropping. It's always something very small. I, I try to remember that it's probably like this for everyone.
Um, that there's always, it's easy to say, if this didn't happen, I would have, if this didn't happen, I would've won this. And it's like, no, you like. It's, you didn't lose. And it's, so I think changing that, uh, attitude to not thinking that I lost, like now at the Nordic Championships, I was 0.02 seconds for a medal in the final.
Um, and it's easy to think I lost the bronze with 0.02 seconds. Um, but, but I didn't because I didn't have it. Um, and [00:46:00] I, that really helped me to go on the line and give everything again. 'cause I think if you start feeling that you lose all the time, this sport is gonna be so brutal. It's gonna, it's gonna be so brutal to you if you think that now I lost this, now I lost this and I lost that.
Um, so I think just changing that mindset to understanding that next time you step on the line. You have the same chance to win again. Um, and yeah, I think, I think we have to learn that in this sport it's not, it's not like any other sport I can come up with where you don't always like, it's the small margins that you say the time like we have sometimes it's a thousand of a second that is determinating.
Um, we saw at a WC last year, we had, after two runs combined, we had two people at the same time. Um, [00:47:00] so it's just so, such small margins and you compete with another individual and you can't communicate with them. That's what we love with the sport. So I think that that mind shift and the attitude towards when things don't go your way, that is a biggie in this sport.
Uh, you have to learn to handle that, uh, because it'll happen often, more often than you will have success.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. Yeah, I agree. And to compare, uh, agility with other sport is very, very difficult. There are of course similarities, um, but the fact that you're actually, your teammate is a dog, it, it understand, understands your command, but it doesn't speak your language.
And it's Exactly, yeah. Yeah. So it's, I don't know any other sport that does that, but that's pretty unique.
Enya Habel: No, it's, it's so unique and I think [00:48:00] that's, that's why we love the sport. And um, and I think also on, on the same subject that, um, like the, the, we need to learn how to like, control our emotions when things don't go our way.
Like the, and focusing on the things that we can control, because I. I think a lot of people are focusing so much on, oh, if I had done this, then I would've had that result. Or if that, uh, I didn't have this wide turn, I would've had that result. And I think it's the sport, like you default back to that in this sport.
It's so easy to think like that. Um, but in this sport, we can't control what other people do. We can't in any sport, you can't control what other people do. And the things we can control is what we think about things or the actions we take, what we do, and what we don't do or how we respond to our emotions.
So after my first world [00:49:00] championship, I could have gone home and said, Nope. Like, that was hard. I didn't like that feeling of losing or whatever. But instead, taking action, uh, to make sure you get the chance again, and then take the chance when you have it. Um. And your, your attitude towards trying again. I think that's, uh, the most important thing.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. You can actually use it as a fuel to fuel your next year.
Enya Habel: Yeah. You have to.
Christoffer Endresen: Yes. And one of the things that, I probably mentioned this before, but after every a w wc, um, Aily and I, we, if we get into the car or we sit on a plane, we always say, now the score is zero. Zero. The game starts again. And Yeah.
That's, it's a loop. What I kind of like, it's a loop about It's a loop. Yeah. It's a loop. Yeah. Um, but it's, it's kind of what I like about it. You, you give, you do your best. [00:50:00] You get your shot. It either, either goes good or not, but then you get to do it again, hopefully. And the scores are even,
Enya Habel: yeah.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. One of the things that we, you talked about there is, is control.
Um, and I wanted to touch upon the, like you'd mentioned before, your circumstances not ideal up in the north of Sweden. Yeah. But at, but at the same time, you've also done measures in order to change your environment, change your circumstances, um, and you actually got a, a hole in Lule, uh, for you. Yeah. Were part of building a hole there.
So talk about that. What was your drive, your motivation and challenges with that?
Enya Habel: Yeah, so when I moved there, um, it was actually a week after tryouts in, in 2018. So I had just qualified for, uh, my first love championship and [00:51:00] I told, uh, people that I was moving up to Lule and. Like the reaction that I got from, from, I would say all of them was, but why? Or now, like your career starts now, you know, you won't be able to do all of the things that you do here.
Like where I used to live, I had five clubs and two halls within 30 minutes. And uh, most of them told me what was not possible. If you live there and you know me, you can't tell me what is not possible because I will just use it in a way where if you tell me no one did this before, I wanna be the first.
Like it's it, I use it as few. So people told me if you live there, you can't compete at the national team. You can't, uh, train in the winter. You can't do, um, you can't run for the best judges. Um, and. That just created the drive [00:52:00] to show them what is possible. And I, I built a lovely community in the north.
Um, like the people there are so warm. And yeah, we just built a cool community where we, um, I started giving trainings. People started to have ambitions and wanting to be better in the sport. Um, I started having competitions and I invited the judges and I invited the trainers that I wanted. So all of a sudden, all of the best judges and the trainers in the world, they would come to Lulu.
Um, and we had perfect conditions, but the only thing that was missing was a whole, and people told me that now they've been trying for so long up here. And I do believe that. Um, but I think what was needed is for someone to just take a financial risk. Um, so yeah, I, I did with, uh, with one of my partners in the company, we decided to open the hall.
[00:53:00] That's two years ago. Um, and when, when leaving that place? Um, I think it came natural as well with what I felt that I, I lived there for seven years. Uh, I did like a checklist. Everything that people told me was not possible. Um, and I just felt that like my mission there was accomplished. And I think the people up there now, they, they have the drive and they have the understanding to continue developing the sport in the north.
But I felt like I maybe outgrew it a little bit and I wanted new challenges, um, that focused a little bit more on, on building. Opportunities for myself. I did at the same time as I also built opportunities for others, but I wanted to use my drive now to create, uh, better opportunities for myself. So, um, [00:54:00] yeah, it, it took five years to get the whole, but um, it, when we had it, like it was, it was perfect and I had everything I needed up there.
So people ask me, why would you leave now when you have everything? And it's because that's how I work now. I've done the things that people said is not possible, and now I want new challenges.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. And that's, I think that's the, the fantastic part when you have this growth mindset is that you, you face a challenge or you take on a challenge and then you have to go through all the hardships and then eventually having the grid to stick through it.
You manage actually to, to accomplish the things that people said couldn't be done. Then will you end up, you enjoy it, of course, but then you wanna seek new challenges and you fall in love with that process. And that's,
Enya Habel: yeah. It's [00:55:00] extremely rewarding. Yeah. It's so rewarding to, to have that feeling that I, I did this, I created this, or people told me this was not possible, but I did it.
And I don't do it for other people. I, I purely and only do it for myself to show myself what I'm capable of, because in the end, I'm all I have. So that's the reason.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. And this is probably a, a difficult question, but it just came to my mind. What, what would you think that the younger you that before starting Agility would say if they were to watch you today?
Enya Habel: Oh my God. Um, the younger me would not believe it. And I, I always had a lot of [00:56:00] drive and I, I learned that from, from being a, a, like my mom told me when I was a child, I was, I was so driven. I was so Dr. Driven in everything I did, but I was also the one that caused trouble or was called to the principal's office or, uh, was misunderstood.
Um, I think my, my younger self would either say, holy shit, we got that far. Or my younger self would say, I knew you would get that far. Like, I don't know, maybe my younger self because I was. I always had it. Maybe, maybe she would just say like, I knew it, I knew we'd figure it out. But I, I did have a, a period of time in my life where I just thought that, like, that type of life where you even have a stable economy or, [00:57:00] um, a passion or a family or friends, that is not in the stars for me.
Like I did, I did have a time of my life where I didn't believe that. So, um, no, I would be very proud, very proud of myself.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. And I think you, you should, and, um, in my world that's okay to say you're allowed to say that you're proud of yourself. I, and I think it is important. I think actually more people need to say that to themselves.
So it's, uh, you're, you're leading the way and yeah. That's good. And so. You also have, um, it hasn't always been challenges, but you also, I think that hard work over time creates new opportunities and it opens doors. And I, I remember when you, you told us that you and Max are going to have a collaboration with Susan Garrett, and we were like, wow, that's amazing.
How [00:58:00] did you manage to do, to do that? It's like, that's fantastic. And you're now, uh, you've recorded the new Handling 360 and you're, uh, involved in Agility Nation. And talk a little bit about that opportunity and how, how has that changed things?
Enya Habel: Oh wow. Like it's, um, you know, now that I'm the type of person that when, when I have opportunities given to me, I take them, um, and I mean, I've. Always, as long as I did agility known about Susan Garrett. Um, but I had the privilege of getting to know her when we got puppies from the same litter. So, uh, you and Ellie have one.
Me and Marcus had one. We unfortunately lost him in the end of last year, and Susan, uh, have one. So that was when I actually got to know her. And, [00:59:00] and that grew into a very, like, lovely friendship between, uh, between us all. And me and Max, uh, were asked to, to do this, and we just said, hell yeah, let's do it.
Um, and for us, like the, the main driven factor and, and something that I, I didn't mention it in in this, um, episode, but I've been teaching agility for many, many years as a, as a trainer and. One of my main priorities in life is to help other people and lift other people. I think that is so important. And what I saw in this collaboration with Max and Susan was the opportunity to help more people and to help more dogs.
And, um, yeah, we, um, we wanted to develop this program where with all of the experience that we have, [01:00:00] like I just talked about how I had to learn to teach, uh, behaviors away from equipment. And we wanted to build a program that could help so many trainers and dogs to not have a frustration in their training, to, to bring clarity into their training and just make the life better for both the dog and the, the trainer.
And. I mean, of course Max and Susan are, um, very well known, named in the sport. And, um, yeah, I, I love working with them. They are, of course, amazing dog trainers and handlers, but they are just really, really, really lovely people. And what we have created is very unique and I'm, again, very proud, very, very proud of what we have created.
It's, um, uh, both handing through 360 and Agility Nation is, [01:01:00] um, something very unique.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. And, and the quality of the videos, that's, uh, that's world class, I would say. Um, it's, uh, I've seen Henley 360 before. Yeah. We have a
Enya Habel: shout out to Brandon. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Brandon who shot the program. Um, and yeah, he's amazing.
He's actually shooting for Toronto Maple Leafs, like he's, he's so good. Yeah. So the quality of the videos is so good, the sound quality, um, and every video have different angles, so you can see, uh, like for online training, it's, it's revolutionary for sure.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. I, I totally agree. It's, um, I haven't seen anything similar on the market.
And, uh, you're pushing the bar. You're racing the bar, um, which is good. I I like that. That's perfect. Yeah, that's competition is always driving each other to new, new levels and, and that's really [01:02:00] good. And you're now raising the bar for the whole community, so, uh, so that's fun. But at the same times when you, these opportunities came along is like, uh.
The world looked like it opened his doors and everything was fantastic. And then life comes and gives you a real, real knock on the face. Um, I wanna take you back to the Easter. Um, you were in, in K Kungs in, in Norway. We, we met, we talked, um, then the next day you, you weren't there. Um, no. And we got concerned because you'd driven a long way and you weren't there.
Um, so we started asking questions and we asked some of the ones from, from the Sweden team and they wouldn't answer. And then we got the news. Um, yeah,
Enya Habel: yeah, [01:03:00] yeah. I will never forget that weekend. Uh, it, it's so crazy how your light can just completely. Flip upside down. Um, one day we were competing with our dogs.
I mean, Marcus was running with sushi and he had a double clean run with the, I think he won a run or a seconder. And we had five weeks still tryouts. And you know, you're in that time where things are starting to fall into place and you're like, wow. It was, it was such a good competition day. We, uh, we went back to the hotel and, um, had dinner at the restaurant.
Um, we went for a walk with our dogs and then we, we went to bed and um, and then just one or two hours later, he mark his heart stopped. [01:04:00] Um, and it was crazy because I am. Like I'm the heaviest sleeper like there could be, but the house could be on fire. I wouldn't wake up. And people say that the sound that always wakes everyone up is when dogs are vomiting.
Not this one, not this one. But for some reason, I think the main reason was because we were not at home. Um, I woke up from a snoring sound, uh, realizing that this is not snoring. This is someone who can't breathe. Um, then I started doing CPR and I called, um, 9 1 1. And uh, yeah, just 10, 15 minutes later there were police officers, um, firefighters, uh, ambulances and everyone was in this small, small hotel room.
And we had seven dogs with us. And, um, it's, it, it was so crazy. [01:05:00] And thankfully, thankfully. Um, we could get his heart to start beating again. But yeah, he, he spent two weeks at the hospital in Oslo. Um, he, uh, didn't only suffer from the, from the cardiac arrest. We, he also woke up from a coma and, uh, had a stroke.
And he had, he was completely broken. Like his, his lungs were collapsed. He had broken ribs, a broken chest. He had bleedings in his lungs and he couldn't, uh, breathe on his own. So he was, um, in a ventilator for six days. Um, it was really, really, really bad. It was, especially when they had to treat the stroke.
They had to give him blood thinners. And blood thinners is not the best when you have, uh, bleedings in your lungs. And I remember the doctors came to me and they said We could give him new lungs, but we [01:06:00] can't give him a new. I had to choose for them what to do. And I'm like, like that. No one should ever have to make that decision.
And um, yeah, thankfully everything went well. Marcus woke up and, I mean, the first thing he asked the doctors was if he could run tryouts. So, and the doctors absolutely not.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. And then let's talk about the tryouts.
Enya Habel: Oh my God. I remember I spent two weeks at the hospital next to him. I was lying on that hospital bed.
It was very uncomfortable. And trying to tell him to maybe focus, like I didn't want to kill his ambition and his drive. Um, but trying to tell him that maybe you can focus on the Swedish championships. It's, uh, a month after tryout. So maybe that's a more realistic goal. The doctors said like, you would [01:07:00] have to wait with that, uh, buddy a few, a few months, maybe years before you can do that again.
And he showed them videos of him running and they was like, they were like, no, nope. Um, but he, and actually during the two weeks when we were at the hospital, the registration for tryouts closed and he registered without telling me. Um, and I didn't know, and I didn't check the lists I was registered from before, but he registered without telling me.
And after a while I did realize that I'm not gonna be able to stop him. So I just have to support him. And don't get me wrong, like Marcus would never do anything where he would risk his health. But when leaving the hospital, he said, I, I feel good. And when leaving the hospital, he had three weeks still tryouts.
He had a heart surgery, um, and he, [01:08:00] he couldn't even walk the dogs to the mailbox without being like, uh, his, his lungs were so damaged, so we were actually not that worried about his heart, but more worried about, um, his lungs. Uh, also with the stroke. Um, like we didn't even know if he can remember a course.
Like there were so many things that you would take for granted that suddenly you didn't know, will this work? Will this work? Um, and he was really dedicated to do it. He, uh, was on the bike. He couldn't run and he couldn't lift his arm because of the heart surgery, but he was on the, on the bike, um, like a training bike in the beginning, just a few minutes, and then gradually longer and longer per day.
Uh, he didn't run any agility, um, but he was in the hall one time and walked a course. Then tried to do it without the dog, but he, he didn't run anything with [01:09:00] sushi leading up to the tryouts. And then we just said, let's, let's do run by run. Uh, you do one run. If you feel okay, you do one more. Um, and we just did run by run.
And, uh, yeah, that, that weekend was absolutely crazy. He, he placed third, he qualified for World Championships, EOS and Nordics. And, um, yeah, I, I, I have no idea how he did it. I have absolutely no idea. But I was on the inside seeing the entire journey and I can just say what he did should not be possible. I even called the hospital in Oslo, uh, to tell them he did this and he succeeded and.
They were like, we have never ever heard about anything like this before. And they wanted me to write a story so they could share it with the, with the staff. [01:10:00] And, um, yeah, it's, it was insane.
Christoffer Endresen: So Marcus is gonna, he is gonna, he is gonna be forced to, uh, join this podcast for sure. Um, yeah. Yes. No, no choice.
Yeah. Um, but, uh, so we can hear from his perspective, but I, I remember the picture from the tryouts, uh, you two, uh, hugging each other. Mm-hmm. And I get, I get the goosebumps. Yeah. Again, but it was, that was such a beautiful thing. And, and not only did he pull you, he fooled the whole, whole agility world and, uh, uh, it's fantastic.
Um, for sure.
Enya Habel: Yeah. No, it's. It's, uh, I, I think definitely you have to, you have to do a separate episode with him, but just knowing that it's like a cardiac arrest outside of the hospital is a 8% survival [01:11:00] chance, and 92% die, and then of, for every minute. 'cause people sometimes confuse it with a heart attack.
Um, but it's not a heart attack. The, the heart just stops. So for every minute, um, your chances of surviving decreases by 10%. So it goes very fast until your chances are down to after five minutes, your chances are down to 4%. So, um, so first of all, just surviving what he did. Um, and then to, to be able to make that recovery like it's.
It's so crazy, but there's so many things in the story that just shows that he was supposed to live that day. Um, like we were, we were planning to live in Alala at negatives place. We always lived there. When we go to any competition in Kongs winger, I [01:12:00] have been, I don't know, for 10 years at those competitions, Norwegian Open and the Easter.
And I have never, ever stayed at this hotel. Never. And Marcus planned to, he talked to young Angela and he said, yes, you can stay here. So, and just a few days before us leaving, I said, I don't want to stay there. And he was like, why? Because it's easy. We always stay there. I said, I just need this weekend to be close to the arena, to have breakfast served and to be able to go to the bed, in to bed in between my runs.
I just need that this weekend. Marcus got upset with me and he said, but it's so expensive to take the hotel. It's just easier to be there. And then I was stubborn and I said, okay, you can stay in Ollin. I will book the hotel. And it was like 6,000, uh, kroner to go to the hotel and we would stay for free in Ollin.
And I said, I will [01:13:00] do it. And then he said, okay, I will stay with you. And this saved his life. Like we, we had a, there was a defibrillator at the hotel we could shock him on at the, in the hotel room. Um, there, we, we were two minutes from the hospital. Um, and for anyone to just, that doesn't know that the place we should have stayed is 30 minutes out on the countryside.
Um, and I cannot believe that he would have survived if he, if we were staying there. So there was so many things that just, um, just points to the fact that he was meant to live that day. Yeah. Um, yeah.
Christoffer Endresen: And we're so happy. You, you are alive Mar Marcus when you're listening to this.
Enya Habel: Yeah. Yeah. We are.
Christoffer Endresen: Yes, we are,
Enya Habel: we are.
Christoffer Endresen: One of the questions that I always ask on this podcast [01:14:00] is, what, what are the things that dogs have taught you that a human could never teach you?
Enya Habel: Definitely to, like your attitude towards life. To be in the present, to see, to find the good and the small things. Like I, I have started now as an inspiration from one of my dogs that I, every day. I try to look for reasons why this is the best day of my life, or why this could be the best day of my life.
It starts in my morning routine. It starts when I, uh, just take a walk in the forest with my dogs. Like I look for reasons why this potentially could be the best day of my life, and I always find them. Um, and that is an attitude that I learned from my dogs, like especially my border colleague, [01:15:00] Zane. He has that attitude.
Every day we do something, it's the best day of his life. And I mean, I think we should learn to live more like, like dogs, to be in the present and to, to just have that attitude of, um, that there's always something good in everything small. Even if it looks like this is not exactly what you want right now, or this is not exactly what you plan for.
There's always something good in it.
Christoffer Endresen: True. I agree on that. There's a cartoon of a calendar, the calendar of my dog, and then you see on every day it's, this is the best day of my life. And that's, uh, I, yes, I, I totally agree with you on that one. They have, uh, such a fantastic perspective and, and presence, um, that really shapes you, uh, for sure.
Yeah.
Enya Habel: Yeah.
Christoffer Endresen: One of the things, um, you and Max and Susan have now created [01:16:00] this handling 360, uh, and of course alienation, but, um, I think that we should mention also for the listener that, uh, now when, this week, when this podcast is now out, uh, there's open opening for joining Handling 360. So where, where can they find that?
Enya Habel: Yeah. Um. Our, our programs, uh, are not open all the time, so we have a few times per year, 1, 2, 3 or four times per year where we open for new registrations. And then after we close, we want to focus on the members that are already in the program. So if we are now after a WC, we're in the middle of, um, leading up to the opening and we will be probably in the middle of our master class where we teach them, uh, focus forward [01:17:00] and training tight turns in agility.
So what they can do is look for the links to sign up to our masterclass, and in the end of our masterclass, we will offer them the opportunity to join Handling 360. This time it'll only be for handling 360, um, but they can also, uh, go on waiting lists for Agility Nation.
Christoffer Endresen: Very good. And we also make sure that in the show notes, you, they will find the link so they don't have to go out looking for it.
Perfect. But if you do see the link somewhere else, perfect. Go and sign up for the masterclass with Susan Max, and then you
Enya Habel: do it.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. And just closing up now, what's, what's the next on, on your journey? I know A A WC is, uh, around the corner in, in our time zone at the moment, but after that, what is next on your journey,
Enya Habel: uh, besides, uh, unpacking all of these boxes?
Um, yeah. A WC is in two [01:18:00] weeks. Uh, it'll be the last competition with party, and after that, she will go into full retirement. Um, and as you say, we are now at the end of the loop. So after a WC, the day after a WC is the first day. Of the step towards next year's a wc. So, um, next year I will only have one dog at the tryouts, and that will be my border college day.
Um, and I'm currently in the middle of, uh, full training program and structure for him how to go into tryouts to be our best. Um, um, I'm also gonna travel a little bit and, uh, get settled in the house, but agility wise, the, the main focus and what I look ahead to right now will be the next year's tryouts because we are in the loop.
Christoffer Endresen: Yeah. The score is zero. Zero. [01:19:00]
Enya Habel: Yeah.
Christoffer Endresen: Fantastic. Thank you so much Enya, for being on this podcast, and thank you so much for sharing your story. Uh, it has given me goosebumps at least five times, maybe more, uh, and I think so with, with the listeners as well. Um, so thank you so much for sharing.
Enya Habel: Thank you so much for having me.
Christoffer Endresen: Thank you for listening to this week's podcast and listening to any story. My takeaway from this podcast and listening to it has been that it doesn't matter where you come from. It doesn't matter where you're currently at, but what do matters is in which direction you're heading, and that refers to life.
It refers to agility, and it refers to almost anything. So with that in mind, what are you going to do this week? This next training session that [01:20:00] is putting you towards the direction you want to go. One of the things that we mentioned in this podcast is that any Amox and Susan, they have this masterclass.
There will be a link in the description, so go over and check out that. I really recommend you to have a look. And with that, again, thank you for watching the Champions training, and I'll see you next week.
